Pamela Stamper turns the tables on The Brave Files host, Heather Vickery! Practice what you preach. Photo by Barbie Hull

Turning The Tables: Practicing What I Preach

With Featured Guest

Heather Vickery & Pamela Stamper

Honest • Painful • Expansion

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Pamela Stamper turns the tables on The Brave Files host, Heather Vickery! Practice what you preach. Photo by Barbie Hull

Turning The Tables: Practicing What I Preach

With Featured Guest

Heather Vickery & Pamela Stamper

Honest • Painful • Expansion

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Top Takeaways From This Episode

  • Flipping the script often gives others an opportunity to step into their own Brave
  • Were all students at something. The learning never stops. Get comfortable with it!
  • Heather requires practicing The BRAVE Method in her life to avoid living in a catatonic state where all she does is read and watch TikTok videos. The shit really works, folks!
  • It’s important to spend time with folks who are achieving what you want to achieve. Put yourself in that badass energy field.
  • If there is something you desire or are seeking, chances are good that someone else desires it also. We teach what we most need to learn.
  • Slow down, you’ll get there. It’s a marathon, not a sprint.
  • Powerful manifesting is all about calling in “this or better.”
  • You get out of things only as much as you are willing to put into them.
  • Trust that the best you can do is the best you can do and it IS enough!
  • Learn to trust your body and listen to it!


This month The Brave Files Podcast is amplifying and sharing Queer voices.

To kick the month off we’ve turned the tables on our host, Heather Vickery!

This week fellow podcaster and friend, Pamela Stamper, interviews Heather about how she lives brave in action, how she actually practices what she preaches, and does all of the things that she coaches others to do. Hopefully, the episode will give you a front-row seat to the inner workings of Heather’s life and business. 

Why it matters

It’s important for Heather to be open, honest, and transparent in and about her life and work. She believes that’s what makes her a great coach and speaker.

Heather does her best to always come from a deep place of understanding, open-mindedness, and willingness to be vulnerable about the process. Practicing what you preach isn't always easy or pretty.

Get to know Pamela!

Follow Pamela Stamper on Instagram and be sure to tune into her podcast, The Blunt and The Curious!

Giving is Good

Due to discrimination and harassment, many LGBTQ+ people struggle to obtain resources. Brave Space Alliance provides educational and access-based programming to provide community members with what is needed to survive and thrive. All programming, services, and resources are intended for BIPOC trans and gender-nonconforming individuals.

Why it matters

Brave Space Alliance is a vehicle to empower and elevate queer and trans voices, particularly those belonging to people of color, to allow our communities a seat at the table on key decision-making processes that impact the community of Chicago.

"I've found that if there is something I desire and am seeking, I am not the only one seeking it."

- Heather Vickery & Pamela Stamper

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Meet your Host, Heather Vickery

Heather Vickery is an award-winning business owner and global leader with over 20 years as an entrepreneur. She leverages her entrepreneurial skills and expertise to coach individuals towards greater personal and professional fulfillment by helping them leverage their fear into intentional bravery. Heather says “When we choose bravely, on purpose, we choose bigger, have bigger successes and it’s contagious” A celebrated public speaker, Heather inspires audiences and empowers attendees with the tools they need to live bold and successful lives through creating balance, time management, mindfulness, as well as countless systems, strategies, and boundaries. She’s the author of Gratitude Journal: Shift Your Focus and Grow Grateful: A Gratitude Journal for Kids and Families. Heather is also the host and executive producer of The Brave Files Podcast.

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